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Aging Gracefully in Tech

Episode Notes

Careers in technology change as professionals move into their 40s and 50s. Early in a tech career, rapid change feels exciting. New tools, companies, and opportunities create momentum. Over time that same pace can begin to feel heavy. Many professionals start asking different questions. They wonder how long their skills will stay valuable, whether companies will continue to seek their experience, and what happens financially if their career path becomes less predictable.

We explain that most of these concerns are not panic. Instead they reflect awareness of how quickly the tech industry evolves. People working in technology understand change better than most, because they help create it. Financial planning helps turn that uncertainty into flexibility. When finances are strong and organized, career changes become something to manage rather than something threatening.

We start by discussing the importance of understanding real spending. Many people track their savings but have not translated those savings into the cost of living their current lifestyle. We talk about separating fixed expenses such as housing and insurance from flexible spending like travel and lifestyle upgrades. Once those numbers are clear, financial scenarios become possible. We can evaluate what happens if someone works until age 60, if income drops earlier, or if someone transitions into consulting or advisory work.

We also explore how tech compensation often peaks earlier than in other industries. Many professionals reach their highest earning years in their late 30s or 40s. That means the window for building wealth is compressed. These years become critical for maximizing retirement contributions and building taxable investments. Without a plan, rising income can lead to rising expenses and long term financial commitments that reduce flexibility later.

Equity compensation is another major topic. Stock grants, options, and employee stock purchase plans can become powerful wealth builders. However they also introduce concentration risk because income, career stability, and investments may all depend on the same company. Diversifying over time becomes an important part of reducing that risk.

Yes, we also address the role of artificial intelligence in shaping tech careers. Historically, new technology changes work more than it eliminates it. Skills like judgment, leadership, and communication often become more valuable as automation increases. Financial planning therefore focuses on building resilience through strong savings, diversified investments, and liquidity that supports career transitions.

Finally we discuss the emotional side of mid career decisions. Many professionals feel trapped by high salaries and demanding roles. With proper planning, people often discover they need less peak income than they assumed. Their investments may already support future goals. That realization can create options such as consulting, semi retirement, or less stressful roles. Financial planning ultimately helps people see the full picture and build flexibility for the many stages of life.

(00:00) Intro and topic: aging gracefully in tech
(00:07) Why mid-career questions change in tech
(00:58) Why tech professionals worry about staying relevant
(02:34) How to know if you're financially prepared for career shifts
(04:33) Why peak earnings arrive earlier in tech
(06:26) Equity compensation and concentration risk
(09:17) AI and the future of tech careers
(11:22) The emotional side: feeling stuck in a high-paying role
(13:50) Financial “bridges” between life stages
(16:09) Escaping the golden handcuffs with planning
(17:17) Planning for the “predictability of unpredictableness”
(18:02) How to contact Thimbleberry Financial

Episode Transcription

ThimbleberryU 158 - Aging Gracefully in Tech

Speakers: Jon Gay & Amy Wall

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Jon Gay (00:07):

Welcome back to ThimbleberryU. I am Jon Jag Gay, along with Amy Walls from Thimbleberry Financial. Hello, Amy.

Amy Walls (00:13):

Hi, Jag.

Jon Gay (00:14):

Today, we're talking tech. And if you work in tech long enough, this conversation about your career eventually starts to change. Early on, the focus is learning quickly, moving up, keeping pace with an industry that's really constantly evolving, but somewhere in your 40s, early 50s, those questions often shift.

People start wondering how long the pace of the industry will last, how technology changes might affect their role, and what their financial life is going to look like if their career path doesn't stay perfectly predictable. We are talking tech.

Today, we're talking about aging gracefully in tech, staying relevant, making sure your finances support flexibility as your career evolves.

Amy, this is something we hear more and more from people in tech. I know it's a specialty of yours at Thimbleberry Financial. What's usually behind this concern? Probably not a simple question.

Amy Walls (00:58):

(Laughs) Not so much of a simple question, but let's dive in. Early in a career in tech, change is exciting. There are new tools to learn, new companies, new opportunities, and that's fun. Because what it means is growth, and who doesn't enjoy that in their career?

Now, later in your career, that same pace of change can feel different. It can feel heavy. And when it starts to feel heavy, people start wondering how long their current skills will stay valuable. I often hear questions from clients like, “How long will companies still want someone with my experience? What happens if the industry shifts before I'm ready to retire?”

And it's not usually panic. So, I think that's important to note. It's awareness that the industry evolves quickly and tech professionals are in it every day. They understand change better than most industries. I mean, they're creating a lot of that change.

And so, these questions are really about wanting confidence in their finances, knowing that their financial situation can handle this change. And planning helps turn that uncertainty into flexibility. The point here being that when the financial situation is strong, when there's preparedness for this change, a career change becomes just something to manage against instead of something threatening.

Jon Gay (02:34):

That's fair. So, let's start with the financial piece of it. A lot of people assume they're going to work into their 60s, but tech careers can feel less predictable than that, especially now as we record this in March of 2026.

How can someone actually know if they're financially prepared if their career changes earlier than expected?

Amy Walls (02:51):

So, a lot of people will track their savings, but they haven't translated that savings into what life actually costs. The starting point is understanding your real spending; not a rough estimate, but what it truly costs to live your current lifestyle. And then separating fixed expenses from flexible ones.

So, housing, insurance, core living costs, those are generally those fixed expenses. Travel, upgrades, and lifestyle spending can shift. Those are the variable ones. And once that's clear, we can compare that against the assets that have already been built, the savings success they've already had.

And that allows us to run a couple of scenarios. What happens if someone works until 60, for example? What happens if income drops in someone's mid-fifties? Another scenario we might look at is what happens if someone shifts into consulting or advisory work. That's one we hear a lot with tech.

The goal isn't predicting exactly what will happen, and I think that's often misunderstood. It's like what's the point in figuring this out because we don't know how it will play out? The goal is knowing where your financial life can absorb change and where it can't.

Because that gives us information about how to move forward together to either get more comfortable if that's what is desired or to say, “Oh, nope, it's going to be what it's going to be, I am willing to roll the dice.” Not usually what our clients pick, but-

[Laughter]

Jon Gay (04:33):

Kind of the opposite side of that, though, Amy. Something else we see in tech is that income can ramp up pretty quickly. People can reach those peak earnings a lot earlier than they plan to. Why is that so important when we're talking about planning?

Amy Walls (04:45):

Yeah, Jag, that's a great, great, great point. Tech compensation often peaks earlier for employees when compared to other industries.

So, someone might reach their highest earning years in their late 30s or 40s. And what that means is that the window where wealth is built is compressed. So, those years become extremely important financially.

When you've got these really strong earning years, you have the opportunity to build long-term later financial flexibility. So, retirement plans likely need to be fully utilized during that time. Taxable investments become really important because they're taking the extra and saving it for the future.

And then equity compensation plays into that because that often represents a large portion of income. One other dynamic we often see at the same time, when the income's just coming in and coming in fast, is lifestyle growth.

So, income rises quickly, and spending can rise with it. Bigger homes, higher recurring expenses, and more fixed commitments.

So, it's this great opportunity that this income is coming in early, and there's some danger attached to it if there isn't a plan for what to do with those dollars to avoid them becoming lifestyle creep, that if you age out (if you will) is going to catch up with you faster.

Jon Gay (06:26):

That's fair. So, another big factor in tech careers is equity compensation. We have done a number of episodes on RSUs, stock options, and ESPPs. I would encourage you to go back and listen to those if you haven't done so already.

Over time, these can become a large portion of someone's net worth. So, how does that affect the financial picture towards the end of somebody's career, later in their career?

Amy Walls (06:50):

Equity comp, as you know because of our many conversations about it, can be one of the most powerful wealth builders for people who work in tech. And ultimately, all of these things become stock in the company.

So, what that means is if it's all being held, people are usually accumulating a significant portion of their net worth through their employer’s stock. But as we've talked about in other episodes, this introduces concentration risk.

Being heavily concentrated in one holding means having more than 5% of your portfolio assets in that single holding. But when you work for the company, it's not just, “Oh, I own this much stock compared to the rest of my portfolio.” It's “My salary depends on the company; my bonuses depend on the company.”

And of course, that stock that you're holding depends on the company. That means one organization is influencing many parts of your financial life. And when that company performs well, that concentration can feel incredibly rewarding.

And if something changes, the impact can show up in multiple places at once in a not good way. Income can be affected via layoff, via no bonuses. Stock value can be affected; market decline and career stability is part of that too.

So, financial planning usually focuses on gradually balancing that exposure. And it's different for each person. What are you willing to take on in risk for this versus someone else? Are you willing to take this risk on if you know you are financially independent already?

But unless you are financially independent, you want to make sure that you diversify and don't have all the eggs in the company basket. That's a conversation to have with a financial advisor.

Jon Gay (08:52):

Again, planning based on your specific level of risk and your specific situation. We've been talking about tech for a few minutes now, this has been at the back of my mind the whole time. I'm sure yours, I'm sure our listeners, we can't talk about the future of tech without talking about AI.

A lot of people are wondering what that's going to mean for their careers. And we're not debating whether AI is going to replace all of us here, but how do you think about that conversation from your financial planning perspective, Amy?

Amy Walls (09:17):

Yeah. Well, I'd be nuts to not say that AI isn't reshaping parts of the tech industry and everybody's lives. But historically, new technology changes work more than it eliminates it. Certain tasks become more automated.

Change requires new skills and roles to emerge because there's a new opportunity. And technical experience still matters. It's skills like judgment, communication, and leadership that often grow in importance with new technology.

So, from a financial perspective, the theme is the same as what we've been talking about: flexibility. And the reality is that careers in tech may evolve several times over a lifetime. It used to be that people stayed (and I'm not talking about tech here) at a job their entire career.

And we know that across most industries, people now change jobs much more frequently than that. And in tech, people are staying four or five years typically. So, there's going to be many iterations likely for our listeners in tech.

And a financial plan for someone in that scenario needs to look very different than someone who works in manufacturing, where there is a lot more stability, if you will. So, a financial plan for someone in tech is going to be focusing likely on strong savings during these peak earning years.

Because it creates resilience for the future. It's going to focus on diversified investments to reduce the dependency on that single employer. And it's going to focus on liquidity and good cash reserves because transitions will happen one way or the other.

Jon Gay (11:22):

Now, obviously the AI is a huge piece of this, but so is the emotional side, as with all things in financial planning. So, some people are going to get to their mid-career and realize they feel financially stuck.

The job pays well, leaving it feels impossible. It's those proverbial golden handcuffs. How do people avoid being in that situation?

Amy Walls (11:42):

Jag, another great question, you're on a roll today. That feeling usually comes from, I think, a lack of financial visibility. When you don't know where you're headed and you don't know how to get there, you feel stuck.

And the thing that's getting you through in this situation would be your income. So, because there isn't a plan, that income feels irreplaceable. And any change can start to feel risky when you don't have that visibility.

But when we're planning and we're running projections to help someone figure out where their boundaries are, where they're going to be comfortable so that we can then give advice from that, people often discover something surprising, a couple of things.

One of those is that their savings has already done more work than they thought. And by savings, I'm not just talking about cash. I'm talking about cash and investments. They may discover that they don't need peak income forever.

Actually, this week I am heads down doing planning work, and this is something that I've been running into with a number of our tech clients, just given the industry and where it's at right now and people wanting to make changes.

Is “What if I semi-retire at a certain point in time to something less stressful?” And I think this is that they're shocked that, “Oh, I don't need to keep making this large income year after year after year until retirement, but I can go to something much less stressful with a much smaller salary and be okay.”

The other thing that they find surprising is they may simply need an income bridge for a period of time to get to the next stage of life. We all have lots of stages of life, but oftentimes as we talk about them, why would we say, “Well, I'm in this stage, and then I'm going to go to this and then I'm going to go to this?” It's just our life.

Jon Gay (13:50):

Right. In Taylor Swift terms it's, “What era are you in?”

Amy Walls (13:52):

Exactly. So, we could break that down, and if we go from here to here, we can just create bridges to get us from place to place. And that surprise that we're talking about is usually really happy.

Jon Gay (14:12):

(Laughs) I would imagine, yeah.

Amy Walls (14:13):

It's exciting, and it's not happy in an “I'm jumping for joy” way but in an “Ooh, I feel so much more calm.”

Jon Gay (14:20):

It’s an exhale.

Amy Walls (14:21):

Yeah, exactly. I can think of a client in tech who felt really locked into a demanding leadership role. And they really thought (based on what was going on at home with kids and all the things and what their lifestyle was like) that they needed another 10 years, another decade or so, of earning at the same rate.

And because there was also a transition going on with where their kids were in life, when we ran the numbers, their investments already carried much of that future plan. It just was invisible to them. There wasn't visibility because there were too many points of change to see where one thing was going to end and something new got to start.

Jon Gay (15:16):

I feel like there's a “forest through the trees” joke here somewhere.

Amy Walls (15:19):

(Laughs) Probably is. They were focused more on navigating the trees, I guess, if you will, than being able to see the whole forest and how it would emerge. And that's okay. If you aren't in this all the time, that's hard to see. And it's why we actually do it in a very analytical, process-driven way.

Because I've been surprised thinking it's going to turn out a certain way, and when I dive in, it looks very different. So, in this case for this client, the realization didn't allow them to leave their job the next day, but it completely changed how they viewed their options going forward. And gave them room and space to dream, if you will, because they now knew there were possibilities.

Jon Gay (16:09):

So, I made the golden handcuffs joke a minute ago, like the key to unlocking these golden handcuffs. The goal isn’t predicting exactly how the tech industry's going to change. It's just building finances that are flexible enough to handle what those changes are going to look like. And you may be further ahead of the game than you think.

Amy Walls (16:26):

Exactly. What I've discovered in my 20, almost 25 (I guess we're closer to that than 20) of doing this work is a lot of times as humans, we are happier to be ostriches. We think we are happier to be ostriches, bearing our heads in the sand and saying that “I'm sure it's this way, it's better to just move forward than to find out this is really awful.”

Jon Gay (16:58):

But the problem is, if your head is in the sand, you might not see how good it actually is.

Amy Walls (17:02):

Or that you have easy opportunity to make it good. So, I am all for us humans popping our heads up (laughter) and changing ourselves back into humans instead of ostriches.

Jon Gay (17:17):

I like it.

Amy Walls (17:18):

Here's the thing, Jag, technology is always going to keep evolving. That's the nature of technology. It's kind of its definition, isn't it?

Jon Gay (17:27):

Sure, yeah.

Amy Walls (17:28):

And career paths in tech rarely are linear, and we just have to accept that's normal. So, we have to use processes that let us plan for the predictability of unpredictableness.

Jon Gay (17:44):

Oh, that's good.

Amy Walls (17:46):

That's what we have to do, and that's what planning for people in tech really is.

Jon Gay (17:51):

This is an eye-opening conversation, Amy, so I'm glad we had it today. If one of our viewers or listeners wants to contact you and your team, whether they work in tech or otherwise, they can reach you at Thimbleberry Financial how?

Amy Walls (18:02):

Yes. They can find us online at thimbleberryfinancial.com or by giving us a call at (503)-610-6510.

Jon Gay (18:13):

Great stuff, Amy. We'll talk again in a couple of weeks.

Amy Walls (18:15):

Sounds good, Jag.

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Securities offered through registered representatives of Cambridge Investment Research Inc., a broker-dealer, member of FINRA/SIPC. Advisory services through Cambridge Investment Research Advisors, Inc., a registered investment advisor. Cambridge and Thimbleberry Financial are not affiliated.